AllCoreDevs - Testing #088
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- Mario Vega
gm
- Pooja Ranjan
gm
- Toni Wahrstätter
jfyi, new last minute agenda item for the EL
- Justin Traglia
Reacted to "jfyi, new last minut..." with 👍
- Mario Vega
Reacted to "jfyi, new last minute agenda item for the EL" with 👍
- Justin Traglia
Replying to "jfyi, new last minut..." For the joined session or breakout session?
- Justin Traglia
Replying to "jfyi, new last minut..." Probably the breakout, right?
- Toni Wahrstätter
Replying to "jfyi, new last minute agenda item for the EL" yeah
- Justin Traglia
Reacted to "yeah" with 👍
- Toni Wahrstätter
Replying to "jfyi, new last minute agenda item for the EL" if its the only thing we might not need the EL breakout but not sure
- Justin Florentine (Besu)
GEEEEEE EMMMMMMM
- Mario Vega
Reacted to "GEEEEEE EMMMMMMM" with 🔥
- Justin Traglia
- wolovim
Reacted to "GEEEEEE EMMMMMMM" with 🌞
- Toni Wahrstätter
Reacted to "GEEEEEE EMMMMMMM" with 🔥
- Justin Traglia
I see that deathstar is properly labeled now, thanks 🙂
- Parithosh Jayanthi
Reacted to "I see that deathstar is properly labeled now, thanks 🙂" with ❤️
- Nico Flaig
Reacted to "I see that deathstar..." with ❤️
- Toni Wahrstätter
For EL devs, check BAL discord: it'd be great to align on the BAL related json rpc methods: https://discord.com/channels/595666850260713488/1364000387195076608/1527979143881429153
- Mario Vega
What’s deathstar? 👀
- Matthew Keil
Replying to "What’s deathstar? 👀" a modified version of Lodestar that can act maliciously
- Mario Vega
Reacted to "a modified version of Lodestar that can act maliciously" with 👍🏼
- Csaba
I was bringing this up in other calls as well: please make devnet 8 discv5 only.
- Luca | Vero
CL devs - I’d appreciate your input on this Beacon API improvement regarding produceBlockV4 🙏 https://ptb.discord.com/channels/595666850260713488/710831784991916072/1527627274122297436 ( "Consensus Layer -> apis" channel )
- Karim T. (matkt)
We need more tests to avoid future differences regarding Bal RPC imo
- Nico Flaig
Replying to "What’s deathstar? 👀" @Mario Vega tldr https://discord.com/channels/595666850260713488/892088344438255616/1513952830543888475
- Matthew Keil
do we want to reach out to some big application level stakeholders so they can practice the fork transition on the devnet-8? like maybe cowswap and/or the builders
- Justin Traglia
Were there any notable issues from EL clients in devnet-7?
- Mario Vega
Reacted to "@Mario Vega tldr https://discord.com/channels/595666850260713488/892088344438255616/1513952830543888475" with 🙏🏼
- Justin Traglia
During last week’s breakout, clients mentioned that SSZ was about 20% slower now.
- Dustin
yeah Nimbus EL supports. Would prefer this
- Csaba
Reacted to "yeah Nimbus EL supports. Would prefer this" with 👍
- Marius Van Der Wijden (M)
Should be acdt/acde
- Mario Vega
I think that’s ACD-E/C decision
- Marius Van Der Wijden (M)
*acdc
- Marius Van Der Wijden (M)
Reacted to I think that’s ACD-E... with "👍"
- Pooja Ranjan
- Guru
Reacted to "I think that’s ACD-E..." with 👍
- spencer
I'm happy from the EELS perspective!
- Guru
Reacted to "I'm happy from the E..." with 👍
- Parithosh Jayanthi
No objection from me
- wolovim
⭐ CL breakout room link: https://ethereumfoundation.zoom.us/j/89441658268?pwd=yjqf4TheEb1R7ZSuesCdOAy5tdyVk7.1
- Justin Traglia
Reacted to "⭐ CL breakout room l..." with 🔥
- Mario Vega
Reacted to "⭐ CL breakout room link: https://ethereumfoundation.zoom.us/j/89441658268?pwd=yjqf4TheEb1R7ZSuesCdOAy5tdyVk7.1" with 🙏🏼
- Will Corcoran
Reacted to "⭐ CL breakout room link: https://ethereumfoundation.zoom.us/j/89441658268?pwd=yjqf4TheEb1R7ZSuesCdOAy5tdyVk7.1" with 🙏🏼
- spencer
Reacted to "⭐ CL breakout roo..." with 🔥
- Nico Flaig
Reacted to "⭐ CL breakout room l..." with 🙏🏼
- Stefan Starflinger
I'm for it
- spencer
We should PR to the tracing EIP (cant remember the number)
- spencer
Then align on the PR!
- Dragan Rakita
Reacted to "Then align on the PR!" with 👀
- Toni Wahrstätter
- Mario Vega
Call summary
Targets
- •Glamsterdam devnet-8: ~1-2 weeks; focus on fork transition with repricing EIP cleanups - 00:08:06
- •Glamsterdam devnet-9: non-finality chaos devnet targeting within ~1 month - 00:10:22
Decisions
- •devnet-8 to run discv5-only (no discv4); confirmed support from Besu/Nimbus EL - 00:16:55
- •All devnet-7 EIPs ready to SFI pending ratification at next ACD call Thursday - 00:19:56
- •EIP-7773 Glamsterdam Meta EIP to move to Review status; no objections - 00:20:17
- •EIP-7997 EELS irregular state transition PR to be closed; factory existence check unnecessary and adds unwanted witness entries - 00:31:31
Highlights
- Eip Status:
- ·All devnet-7 EIPs satisfy SFI criteria per EIP-7723; proposal to formally SFI at next ACDE/ACDC Thursday - 00:18:25
- ·EIP-7773 Meta EIP for Glamsterdam to be moved to Review status; no objections raised - 00:20:01
- Testing Progress:
- ·Death Star added to devnet-7 for chaos testing; malicious Prysm node also incoming this week - 00:06:23
- ·Lodestar fork-transition bug: spread operator blew the stack on large SSZ Merkle trees; fixed - 00:11:43
- ·Stable containers ~10-20% slower across clients; optimization round needed before testnet - 00:13:59
- ·Main devnet-7 EL issue: gas accounting inconsistencies; SSZ container performance at fork transition was the bigger surprise - 00:16:11
- El Breakout Bal Json Rpc:
- ·BAL-specific JSON RPC methods inconsistent across clients; Toni created alignment PR against execution-apis - 00:22:33
- ·EIP-7997 contracts factory: Toni's EELS PR to add factory via irregular state transition; consensus is to close it — factory already in Genesis, check adds unwanted witness entries - 00:26:10
- Fork Status And Schedule:
- ·Glamsterdam devnet-7 stable; Erigon and Grandine being onboarded as final clients - 00:05:52
- ·devnet-8 targets spec cleanup changes (repricing EIPs) and another fork transition test; timeline ~1-2 weeks - 00:07:09
- ·Plan: devnet-8 for smooth fork transition, devnet-9 as non-finality/chaos-focused devnet - 00:10:22
Action Items
- •EL teams - Align BAL-related JSON RPC methods across EL clients before devnet-8; review Toni's execution-apis PR - 00:10:52
- •ACD facilitators / EIP editors - Formally move devnet-7 EIPs to SFI at next ACDE/ACDC call - 00:19:00
Key decisions
devnet-8 to run discv5-only (no discv4); confirmed support from Besu/Nimbus EL
devnet-8All devnet-7 EIPs ready to SFI pending ratification at next ACD call Thursday
SFIEIP-7773 Glamsterdam Meta EIP to move to Review status; no objections
UnknownEIP-7997 EELS irregular state transition PR to be closed; factory existence check unnecessary and adds unwanted witness entries
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