AllCoreDevs - Consensus #186
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- Akash | ECH
gm gm
- Justin Traglia
Gm
- Toni Wahrstätter
- jochem-brouwer
gm :D
- Justin Florentine (Besu)
gm. today i went to discord to find the meeting link and it occurred to me that... discord does teleconferencing too. why do we zoom instead?
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
Gm lads
- Eitan Seri-Levi
gm
- Chris Berry
gm
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
Replying to "gm. today i went to ..." Discord calls are a mess
- Parithosh Jayanthi
Reacted to "Discord calls are a mess" with 👍
- Justin Florentine (Besu)
Replying to "gm. today i went to ..." poor moderator control?
- Justin Traglia
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- potuz
Replying to "gm. today i went to ..." They are illegal in Brazil right now
- Iván | ethrex
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- Miguel Tenorio
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- Parithosh Jayanthi
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- Toni Wahrstätter
sounds like a full success
- potuz
lol
- Kaloyan Tanev
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- jochem-brouwer
Heeft gereageerd op "lol" met 😅
- Ben Adams
Reacted to "sounds like a full success" with 😂
- Chris Berry
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- jochem-brouwer
Heeft gereageerd op "sounds like a full..." met 😂
- Mehdi Aouadi
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- Ben Adams
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- Eitan Seri-Levi
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- Nico Flaig
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- Parithosh Jayanthi
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- Dima Gusakov | Lido
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- Nico Flaig
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- Luca Donno | L2BEAT
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- Enrico Del Fante (tbenr)
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- Parithosh Jayanthi
Replying to "sounds like a full s..." Epbs fixes this
- Miguel Tenorio
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- Chris Berry
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- Enrico Del Fante (tbenr)
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- Mehdi Aouadi
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- Eitan Seri-Levi
Replying to "sounds like a full s..." It fixes what it breaks
- Eitan Seri-Levi
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- Parithosh Jayanthi
- Stefan Starflinger
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- potuz
Prysm can’t merge but it’s already there
- potuz
It’s trivial to implement
- Enrico Del Fante (tbenr)
Already implemented, waiting for spec
- Miguel Tenorio
Reacted to "https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/pull/5594" with ➕
- Eitan Seri-Levi
Its ez, will have a pr today
- potuz
Reacted to "Already implemented, waiting for spec" with 👍
- Justin Traglia
Planning to make the beta.0 release today btw.
- Enrico Del Fante (tbenr)
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- Eitan Seri-Levi
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- Stefan Starflinger
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- Nico Flaig
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- Miguel Tenorio
Upvote for devnet 10
- Chris Berry
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- Jun Song
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- Chris Berry
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- Luca Donno | L2BEAT
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- sponcer
We'll tag a new release ASAP!
- sponcer
Replying to "We'll tag a new re..." v8.1.4
- Iván | ethrex
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- Mario Vega
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- Mario Vega
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- jochem-brouwer
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- Iván | ethrex
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- jochem-brouwer
Heeft gereageerd op "v8.1.4" met 🚢
- Iván | ethrex
We can have it between today and tomorrow
- Gary (Geth)
We can have it on master very soon
- milen | Erigon
Replying to "We'll tag a new rele..." Hi sp-o-ncer
- Stefan Starflinger
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- sponcer
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- Stefan Starflinger
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- Mega | Lambda
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- Nico Flaig
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- Kevaundray Wedderburn
Are the ssz specs implementable by clients?
- Justin Traglia
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- Justin Traglia
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- Kevaundray Wedderburn
Replying to "Are the ssz specs im..." Or does it need more discussion
- Luca Donno | L2BEAT
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- Parithosh Jayanthi
https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/2199#issuecomment-5487511387
- Parithosh Jayanthi
https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/2199#issuecomment-5526648199
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
This is Lido Greg
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
There is also 1 more topic for Hegota - Testnet dates
- Parithosh Jayanthi
- Justin Traglia
It would be nice to set a date now
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
I guess if we move Sepolia, we should also move Hoodi
- Justin Traglia
I feel that Sept 28th for Sepolia is still reasonable. I would prefer to lock in that date.
- Greg K | Lido
EIP-8148 links: EIP updated to adapt latest EIP specification Feature spec added in consensus spec repo. System contract PR opened in the sys-asm repo.
- Prysm
[EIP-8148] Implement a POC OffchainLabs/prysm#17338 Tests are ready (wait only for CFI status for the PR)
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
I think setting dates today at least for Sepolia is needed
- Greg K | Lido
EIP-8205 links: EIP updated to adapt latest Gloas specification Feature spec added (PR) in consensus spec repo. System contract PR opened in the sys-asm repo. Landing page to track all updates: https://eip8205.com/
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
I would prefer Oct
- Justin Traglia
Don’t everyone speak at once 😆
- Enrico Del Fante (tbenr)
Maybe setting sepolina only
- Maria Silva
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- Luca | Vero
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- Dima Gusakov | Lido
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- Will Corcoran
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- james
OCT sounds better ( didn’t discuss with team)
- Kaloyan Tanev
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- Eitan Seri-Levi
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- Dima Gusakov | Lido
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- Iván | ethrex
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- Satyajit
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- potuz
This does not require releases far in advance?
- Dima Gusakov | Lido
Let’s go safe and set Oct
- Povilas
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- Justin Traglia
SGTM
- Miguel Tenorio
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- Parithosh Jayanthi
- Chris Berry
What if devnet-10 fails to transition smoothly? Do we walk back this date?
- nixo
24 hours before ACDC is better so that we can do some scoping on that day
- Justin Florentine (Besu)
is it important that we opine on ALL eips?
- Justin Florentine (Besu)
ty ser
Call summary
Targets
- •Consensus-specs beta.0 release — September 3, 2026 (today) - 00:11:54
- •Sepolia Glamsterdam fork — October 6, 2026 - 00:29:41
- •DevNet 10 launch — week of September 8, 2026 (pending stable images) - 00:12:56
Decisions
- •EIP-8037 cross-frame state gas fix approved for Glamsterdam; all EL clients to implement and deploy on DevNet 8 - 00:14:05
- •Consensus-specs block parent-hash equality check added as spec fix; all clients to implement - 00:11:09
- •Sepolia Glamsterdam fork date set to October 6, 2026; Hoodi date to be decided later - 00:29:41
Highlights
- Client Updates:
- ·Engine API SSZ spec merged to execution-apis master; implementable now, minor iterations expected - 00:16:47
- Organizational:
- ·Hegota EIP tier rankings due by September 10; CL teams must publish rankings with written rationale at least one day before next ACDC - 00:30:38
- Testing Progress:
- ·DevNet 9 (1000-node non-finality net): Prysm failed Gloas state transition; Grandine OOM livelock; Teku memory starvation caused canonical blocks marked bad; network not finalizing - 00:06:32
- ·DevNet 8 critical bug: block with same hash as parent halts entire network; Lodestar fixed; spec change (consensus-specs PR #5594) adding parent-hash check incoming; beta.0 release planned today - 00:08:25
- ·DevNet 10 planned next week pending fixed images; Optimism and Lido testing deferred until stable fork transition achieved - 00:12:56
- Eip Proposals Hegota:
- ·EIP-8148 (custom sweep thresholds for 0x02 validators) and EIP-8205 (withdrawal credential pre-registration): specs and POC implementations ready; CFI/DFI discussion expected in ~2 weeks - 00:20:04
- Fork Status And Schedule:
- ·Sepolia Glamsterdam fork set to October 6; Hoodi date deferred to a later decision - 00:29:41
- Eip Proposals Glamsterdam:
- ·EIP-8037 spec-bug-fix (cross-frame state gas): all EL clients agreed; Geth/Erigon already implemented and tested on DevNet 8; others releasing ASAP (ethrex v8.1.4 within 1–2 days) - 00:13:22
Action Items
- •Justin Traglia / spec team - Merge consensus-specs parent-hash check PR and cut beta.0 spec release - 00:11:54
- •All client teams - Comment/approve Sepolia October 6 fork date on PM pull request #2205 - 00:29:53
- •All CL client teams - Publish Hegota EIP tier rankings with rationale by September 10 - 00:31:34
Key decisions
EIP-8037 cross-frame state gas fix approved for Glamsterdam; all EL clients to implement and deploy on DevNet 8
IncludedApproved for Glamsterdam fork; all EL clients to implement and deploy on DevNet 8.Consensus-specs block parent-hash equality check added as spec fix; all clients to implement
Fix for critical bug where block with same hash as parent halts network.Sepolia Glamsterdam fork date set to October 6, 2026; Hoodi date to be decided later
SFISepolia testnet fork date for Glamsterdam.
EIPs discussed
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