AllCoreDevs - Execution #241
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- potuz
GM
- Jason Vranek
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- Pooja Ranjan
gm
- Daniel Knopik
gm
- cayman
gm
- Jun Song
gm
- Satyajit
gm
- Stefan Starflinger
good afternoon
- Jun Song
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- Daniel Knopik
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- Satyajit
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- Nico Flaig
what about the temporary public testnet?
- Stefan Starflinger
- Csaba
Would be great to do devnet 8 without discv4, discv5 only
- Dustin
people ignore devnets
- Satyajit
- Stefan Starflinger
- Dragan Rakita
glamsterdam-devnet-final-final sounds final 🙂
- nixo
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- spencer
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- spencer
final-trust-me-bro-final-2
- Dragan Rakita
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- Stefan Starflinger
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- wolovim
Reacted to "https://forkcast.org/devnets/glamsterdam-devnet-7/" with ❤️
- Dustin
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- Stefan Starflinger
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- Ansgar Dietrichs
joined the call just in time for the most important topic :-)
- Jun Song
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- spencer
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- Jun Song
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- Satyajit
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- Stefan Starflinger
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- nixo
https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/2157#issuecomment-4991803289
- Pooja Ranjan
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- nixo
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- Stefan Starflinger
what about marius https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/2157#issuecomment-4981597977 rest ssz?
- Iván | ethrex
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- Dragan Rakita
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- potuz
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- Jun Song
Regarding non-engine methods raised by Marius, Prysm status - mostly matching with Lighthouse: # Still used eth_getBlockByNumber eth_getBlockByHash eth_chainId # used in eth1 deposit path eth_call eth_getLogs # unused eth_blockNumber - using eth_getBlockByNumber instead eth_syncing eth_getCode eth_sendRawTransaction
- Mikhail Kalinin
Replying to "Regarding non-engine..." Why eth_call, eth_getLogs are still used for the eth1 deposit path? That path was deprecated after Electra upgrade
- Nico Flaig
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- Jun Song
Replying to "Regarding non-engine..." This is one of the tech debt in our side, planning to remove them. Lighthouse is also using this according to https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/2157#issuecomment-4981597977
- potuz
I am actively ignoring PRs that fix typos
- potuz
Specially if I need to update the EIP once we finally freeze the spec (which I think it is finally frozen)
- FLCL (Nethermind)
are those used all absolutely necessary? used in eth1 deposit path ones?
- Daniel Knopik
Replying to "Regarding non-engi..." Note that the eth1 ones listed there are not actually used in Lighthouse anymore
- Daniel Knopik
Replying to "Regarding non-engi..." There is some dead code, but that can be removed
- Daniel Knopik
Replying to "Regarding non-engi..." only the four listed under "Still used" are actually used.
- Jun Song
Replying to "Regarding non-engine..." Yeah I’d say we (Prysm) are in the same phase, code exists but in production path it’s gated by a predicate including Electra.
- potuz
Please please nothing else!
- wolovim
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Call summary
Targets
- •Hegota non-headliner EIP submission deadline — August 6, 2026 - 00:21:37
Decisions
- •glamsterdam-devnet-7 designated as the short-lived public app-developer testnet; no separate Mekong-style network planned - 00:17:07
- •EIP-8268 (storage routes in block access lists) PFI'd for Hegota - 00:23:20
Highlights
- Rest Ssz:
- ·Marius (absent) flagged missing non-engine methods on engine port; Prysm confirmed only 4 methods still used: eth_getBlockByNumber, eth_getBlockByHash, eth_chainId, eth_blockNumber (unused); eth1 deposit path methods (eth_call, eth_getLogs) are dead code post-Pectra, planned for removal - 00:20:04
- Organizational:
- ·Ethereum mascot runoff vote (flamingo vs. polar bear) underway on ETH Magicians; community urged to vote - 00:18:27
- ·Seven Glamsterdam EIPs still pending promotion to Review status; authors asked to approve open PRs - 00:24:41
- ·Glamsterdam EIPs not yet moved to SFI; Pooja to confirm four testing milestones met with testing team before promoting - 00:25:12
- Eip Proposals Hegota:
- ·Hegota non-headliner submission deadline: August 6; PR EIPs against Meta EIP-8081; present on the following ACDE - 00:21:37
- ·FOCIL is the confirmed Hegota headliner; native account abstraction CFI'd as non-headliner pending convergence among implementers - 00:22:08
- ·EIP-8268 (storage routes in block access lists) PFI'd by Carlos (absent); presentation deferred to next ACDE - 00:23:20
- Fork Status And Schedule:
- ·glamsterdam-devnet-7 launched Tuesday with Gloas fork; ~80-90% participation rate; Grandine + Erigon onboarding in progress - 00:08:15
- ·Benchmarks still targeting devnet-6 results; devnet-7 benchmarks not yet ready - 00:10:31
- ·DevNet 8 planned before testnet graduation; final repricing numbers and minor EIP cleanup still outstanding - 00:10:44
- ·devnet-7 designated as short-lived public testing ground for app developers ahead of Sepolia/Hoodi; faucet available - 00:17:07
Action Items
- •CL client teams - Review non-engine methods exposed on engine port; confirm which are needed and whether eth1 deposit path can be retired - 00:20:04
- •Pooja Ranjan / testing team - Confirm four SFI milestone criteria met with testing team before promoting Glamsterdam EIPs to SFI - 00:27:07
Key decisions
glamsterdam-devnet-7 designated as the short-lived public app-developer testnet; no separate Mekong-style network planned
glamsterdam-devnet-7EIP-8268 (storage routes in block access lists) PFI'd for Hegota
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