AllCoreDevs — Testing #070
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Targets
- •March 4 - Glamsterdam bal-devnet-3 with EIP-8037, 7954, ETH/70, optional ETH/71 — 00:34:16
Decisions
- •BAL DOS protection constraint enforced outside EVM at block receipt time — 00:18:10
- •BAL DOS protection formula targets DevNet-3, not DevNet-2 — 00:18:55
- •DevNet-3 launch moved from February 25 to March 4 — 00:31:36
- •ETH/71 scoped as optional for DevNet-3; clients can participate without it — 00:36:49
- •Perf-devnet-2 requires CL chain relaunch due to finalized state loss — 00:45:03
Highlights
- Bal Updates:
- ·BAL DOS protection: hard cap on items added via PR 11234; formula may simplify with EIP-7981 — 00:09:31
- ·JSON-RPC methods simplified to use block number/tag/hash; return JSON instead of RLP — 00:16:41
- ·ETH/71 adds BAL query method; scoped as optional for DevNet-3 — 00:22:40
- State Bloat:
- ·Perf-devnet-2 dead: all EL clients died, finalized chain without available blocks — 00:44:14
- Epbs Updates:
- ·EPBS devnet-0: All CL clients need 1-2 weeks; Feb 18 target unrealistic — 00:38:01
- ·Lighthouse fixing gossip/import bug; ready for local interop by week end — 00:39:06
- ·Consensor reference implementation passed all tests; epoch transition working — 00:43:44
- Testing Progress:
- ·NFT-devnet-10 (ETH/70) launched; Geth/Nethermind confirm sync impossible without ETH/70 for large receipts — 00:20:52
- ·Besu syncing NFT-devnet-10 externally; expects to join network mid-week — 00:23:00
- ·EIP-8037 testing concerns: many existing tests will break, need refill assessment — 00:30:17
- Fork Status And Schedule:
- ·Fusaka blob-devnet-0 running with 20 nodes; Lighthouse/Prism ready, Teku/Nimbus in progress — 00:06:01
- ·Glamsterdam bal-devnet-2 had bugs over weekend; reverted to stable commit, 100% participation restored — 00:09:05
- ·DevNet-3 scope: EIP-8037, EIP-7954, ETH/70, ETH/71 (optional), simulate_v1 RPC — 00:32:00
- ·DevNet-3 launch pushed from Feb 25 to March 4 due to testing needs — 00:34:16
Action Items
- •All EL teams — Review/approve BAL DOS protection PR 11234 — 00:15:03
- •All EL teams — Review execution-apis PRs 726 and 727 for DevNet-3 — 00:16:41
- •Barnabas — Publish DevNet-3 specification document — 00:33:23
Meeting chat72
- jochem-brouwer
gm
- felipe
gm
- jochem-brouwer
Heeft gereageerd op "gm" met 👋
- Mario Vega
gm
- jochem-brouwer
Heeft gereageerd op "gm" met 🔥
- Barnabas
- Barnabas
- Marius van der Wijden
Whats the tldr on blob-devnet-0?
- Marius van der Wijden
And the purpose is to test full peerdas?
- Marius van der Wijden
Seeign some orphans and 90% participation
- Barnabas
- Marius van der Wijden
Whats the max gas limit this could support?
- Marius van der Wijden
Ah okay
- Marius van der Wijden
cool
- Marius van der Wijden
(github doesn't load for me atm)
- Dustin
https://www.githubstatus.com/ says "All Systems Operational"
- jochem-brouwer
It should not be possible to construct a block which violates this constraint (because then you have invalid EVM execution) given that the formula is correct. So if we make this part of consensus then there should thus be tests of specifically sized BALs with items to test that invalidaton
- Barnabas
- Barnabas
- Barnabas
try to sync with kurtosis — network: nft-devnet-10
- jochem-brouwer
Also need eth/71
- jochem-brouwer
Yes =)
- Karim T. (matkt)
Protection against DOS attack will depend on result regarding prefetch no ?
- Mario Vega
Which Engine API methods?
- Jen
What’s the timeline for devnet-3?
- Jen
Replying to "Which Engine API met..." https://github.com/ethereum/execution-apis/pull/726 I believe
- Toni Wahrstätter
Replying to "Which Engine API met..." one sec, I'll pull up the PR
- Mario Vega
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- Toni Wahrstätter
Replying to "Which Engine API met..." https://github.com/ethereum/execution-apis/pull/727
- Mario Vega
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- Toni Wahrstätter
8037 was scoped
- Toni Wahrstätter
and another one iirc
- Dustin
there's no https://notes.ethereum.org/@ethpandaops/bal-devnet-3 yet?
- Maria Silva
The contract size
- Barnabas
Replying to "there's no https://n..." will make it right after the call
- g1
devnet-3 - EIP-8037: State Creation Gas Cost Increase - EIP-7954: Increase Maximum Contract Size
- spencer-tb
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- felipe
Reacted to "devnet-3 - EIP-803..." with ❤️
- Barnabas
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- Mario Vega
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- Mario Vega
My main concern is 8037 on the testing side
- Ben Adams
Was this one https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/pull/11306
- Karim T. (matkt)
Is it devnet3 and devnet2 at the same time ? We wanted to do benchmark on devnet 2
- Ansgar Dietrichs
there was also `eth_simulateV1` RPC support
- Marius van der Wijden
Can we either 1) push devnet-3 to first week of march 2) remove new eips (8037 and 7954) from devnet-3
- Marius van der Wijden
Replying to "Can we either 1) ..." I would prefer to move the deadline
- the ACDE summary (looks right)
eth/70 part of devnet-3 spec; clients without support can still participate
- Dustin
Replying to "Is it devnet3 and ..." would this mean supporting devnet-2 specs at the same time as devnet-3? these inevitably involve pointless back/forward porting of the same things to keep known-obsolete spec-based devnets running
- Ansgar Dietrichs
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- spencer-tb
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- Jared Wasinger
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- Mario Vega
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- spencer-tb
Replying to "Can we either 1) pu..." I’d be happy with this
- g1(shadow)
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- felipe
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- g1(shadow)
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- Karim T. (matkt)
Don’t really have preference just wanted to understand if we want to do benchmark on devnet 3 now . Before we said devnet 2
- felix (eest)
Reacted to "I would prefer to ..." with 👍
- Marius van der Wijden
Which client does not have eth_simulateV1 at this point?
- Marius van der Wijden
We have it in the codebase at least
- Jen
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- Karim T. (matkt)
We have it in besu but not passing test, so maybe better to postpone also
- Marius van der Wijden
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- Marius van der Wijden
eth/71 is also optional (only used for sync improvements, which no one has iimpl yet)
- Marius van der Wijden
Reacted to "will make it right..." with 🔥
- Barnabas
epbs-devnet-0 branch name?
- Barnabas
we have ethpandaops/geth:epbs-devnet-0 for EL image to test your CL locally.
- Barnabas
Replying to " epbs-devnet-0 bran..." @Gaia ?
- Gaia
Replying to " epbs-devnet-0 bran…" gloas-devnet-0
- Barnabas
Replying to " epbs-devnet-0 bran..." could you please rename to epbs-devnet-0?
- Gaia
Replying to " epbs-devnet-0 bran…" yes np
- Gaia
Replying to " epbs-devnet-0 bran…" lol just realized im using my wife’s zoom profile
Key decisions
BAL DOS protection constraint enforced outside EVM at block receipt time
BAL DOS protection formula targets DevNet-3, not DevNet-2
DevNet-3 launch moved from February 25 to March 4
SFIETH/71 scoped as optional for DevNet-3; clients can participate without it
Perf-devnet-2 requires CL chain relaunch due to finalized state loss